Deborah Judge ([identity profile] deborah-judge.livejournal.com) wrote in [personal profile] rose_griffes 2011-02-07 04:46 pm (UTC)

I'm glad you're continuing the conversation...and, um, I hope the horrible things in my brain didn't traumatize you too much.

We can confirm that the war aspect is correct--or at least confirm that they were certainly capable of acts of war.

This is actually a big part of 'Caprica' - Daniel made the original Cylons as fighting machines, and Sam Adama (Bill's uncle) is the first to use them that way. Daniel does seem to know that they are sentient, but is quite confused about the extent to which they are people. In a highly disturbing scene, Daniel brings a Cylon to a board meeting and has it rip off its own arm to show how completely Cylons are under human control. In another highly disturbing scene, Daniel makes a virtual replica of his wife Amanda but programs her to be forgiving and sexually available in ways his wife isn't. On the other hand, Daniel and Amanda make a Cylon replica of their daughter and see this as getting their daughter back.

The question of how much Centurions are sentient is not quite settled - at first it seems that Centurions are only sentient when programmed with reconstructed human personalities. Late in the series, though, it seems that all the Centurions are sentient enough to recognize friends and make moral decisions.

What do the 'skinjobs' remember of their collective past use/abuse and how much of that memory is instead the stories they tell?

One thing about my story is that Leoben doesn't know about the Final Five, who were also part of the history of how and why he was created and had a much less abusive purpose in creating humanoid robots. (On the other hand, aside from the Ellen/Boomer and Ellen/One scenes, we never see the Final Five show much affection or attention towards their children either, which makes me sad.)

But yeah, this is all fascinating and disturbing to think about, and I'll look forward to seeing what you come up with.

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