This is an excellent refresher on a very dense two-parter. There are so many little details to cover! Wow, it really did deserve the Emmy nod. I think the only part I didn't love about them was, indeed, the voiceover. That was bad. But like you say, at least it doesn't last TOO long. And it does somewhat evoke those memorable occupation/concentration-camp movies where the narrative is taken from somebody's diary account.
It doesn't matter if the contact is very personal or in large groups, the humans won't accept the cylons and they don't get it. Clueless cylons.
See, as a larger thematic concept, I love this--that they keep trying, and yet can't seem to overcome the (totally rational) human distrust--so that's why it bothers me that, actually, it HAS worked and one Cylon has won acceptance (Helo's Sharon), but ONLY her and for no particular reason (or no reason I ever felt was earned--what, she gets *pregnant* and all's forgiven?). Personal interaction with Helo and then Adama opened the way for her acceptance on a large scale, because apparently the entire Fleet military is fine and dandy with her presence post-New Caprica. Yes, it still irritates me. There should be ongoing skepticism, and not just from Cally (and I really don't understand why Cally is the lightning-rod for dislike in this fandom, but widespread character love/hate is something I've learned not to fight).
Admittedly, it could be interesting if THAT was what drove the Cylons insane--I mean, that one of them could win the humans over, but that they couldn't repeat the circumstances or provoke the same response twice (precisely *because* Helo's sudden loyalty was so random). Sometimes I feel a little disappointed in the show that they use so many (too many, IMHO) conflicting motivations for the Cylons. It's one thing if, say, Eights want to integrate with the humans--love them and cuddle them and call them friends--while Three wants to be their tyrant overlord, or Leoben (please let him finally get a number someday) wants to convert their religion, and so on, but it needs to at least remain consistent. If all the models of one number/type share a certain personality profile as well as skin (and I've always had the impression they do), why aren't their inter-Cylon arguments shaped that way? Why did season 3 seem more like D'Anna was the only one with any drive to do anything, effectively displacing all the specific numbered models (particularly Six and Eight and Leoben) who've slowly developed a personalized perspective (and recognizable, to the audience) through interpersonal experience with various humans? Ugh. Poor storytelling, if you ask me. It bothered me all season, and now I have some distance and still feel the same way, so I've typed up the rant and spammed your LJ. *g* Guess you got me thinking.
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It doesn't matter if the contact is very personal or in large groups, the humans won't accept the cylons and they don't get it. Clueless cylons.
See, as a larger thematic concept, I love this--that they keep trying, and yet can't seem to overcome the (totally rational) human distrust--so that's why it bothers me that, actually, it HAS worked and one Cylon has won acceptance (Helo's Sharon), but ONLY her and for no particular reason (or no reason I ever felt was earned--what, she gets *pregnant* and all's forgiven?). Personal interaction with Helo and then Adama opened the way for her acceptance on a large scale, because apparently the entire Fleet military is fine and dandy with her presence post-New Caprica. Yes, it still irritates me. There should be ongoing skepticism, and not just from Cally (and I really don't understand why Cally is the lightning-rod for dislike in this fandom, but widespread character love/hate is something I've learned not to fight).
Admittedly, it could be interesting if THAT was what drove the Cylons insane--I mean, that one of them could win the humans over, but that they couldn't repeat the circumstances or provoke the same response twice (precisely *because* Helo's sudden loyalty was so random). Sometimes I feel a little disappointed in the show that they use so many (too many, IMHO) conflicting motivations for the Cylons. It's one thing if, say, Eights want to integrate with the humans--love them and cuddle them and call them friends--while Three wants to be their tyrant overlord, or Leoben (please let him finally get a number someday) wants to convert their religion, and so on, but it needs to at least remain consistent. If all the models of one number/type share a certain personality profile as well as skin (and I've always had the impression they do), why aren't their inter-Cylon arguments shaped that way? Why did season 3 seem more like D'Anna was the only one with any drive to do anything, effectively displacing all the specific numbered models (particularly Six and Eight and Leoben) who've slowly developed a personalized perspective (and recognizable, to the audience) through interpersonal experience with various humans? Ugh. Poor storytelling, if you ask me. It bothered me all season, and now I have some distance and still feel the same way, so I've typed up the rant and spammed your LJ. *g* Guess you got me thinking.