Heh, I'm glad it was a good refresher--this was the ultra-condensed version of my notes, and it's still really long. I'm impressed anyone read the whole thing.
If all the models of one number/type share a certain personality profile as well as skin (and I've always had the impression they do), why aren't their inter-Cylon arguments shaped that way? Why did season 3 seem more like D'Anna was the only one with any drive to do anything, effectively displacing all the specific numbered models (particularly Six and Eight and Leoben) who've slowly developed a personalized perspective (and recognizable, to the audience) through interpersonal experience with various humans? Ugh. Poor storytelling, if you ask me.
Good point about the inter-cylon discussions, and I do think it's a bad choice for the story they were creating prior to season three. I would guess that part of the struggle with an ensemble cast is giving all the various pieces the right amount of attention--the writers knew the plan to give Three a big part for the first half of season three, so only her role mattered in the arguments. Too bad.
I really don't understand why Cally is the lightning-rod for dislike in this fandom, but widespread character love/hate is something I've learned not to fight
Being relatively new to different aspects of fandom I was shocked when I saw how virulent some people are in their Cally-hate. It's part of why I stopped lurking on TWoP except for a few specific threads. Ah well. How quickly the newbie learns that fandom is just crazy. Fun, but insane.
as a larger thematic concept, I love this--that they keep trying, and yet can't seem to overcome the (totally rational) human distrust--so that's why it bothers me that, actually, it HAS worked and one Cylon has won acceptance
The more I think about this the more it bothers me too; it makes me wonder if something is fundamentally wrong with Helo and Bill Adama--without their influence Sharon would still be locked up and shunned. I was going over that whole sequence in my mind--Helo stops Kara from shooting Sharon because of the pregnancy and then he starts to trust her... which leads to Kara being tolerant of her, and so on. another case of magic ovaries on BSG, heh
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If all the models of one number/type share a certain personality profile as well as skin (and I've always had the impression they do), why aren't their inter-Cylon arguments shaped that way? Why did season 3 seem more like D'Anna was the only one with any drive to do anything, effectively displacing all the specific numbered models (particularly Six and Eight and Leoben) who've slowly developed a personalized perspective (and recognizable, to the audience) through interpersonal experience with various humans? Ugh. Poor storytelling, if you ask me.
Good point about the inter-cylon discussions, and I do think it's a bad choice for the story they were creating prior to season three. I would guess that part of the struggle with an ensemble cast is giving all the various pieces the right amount of attention--the writers knew the plan to give Three a big part for the first half of season three, so only her role mattered in the arguments. Too bad.
I really don't understand why Cally is the lightning-rod for dislike in this fandom, but widespread character love/hate is something I've learned not to fight
Being relatively new to different aspects of fandom I was shocked when I saw how virulent some people are in their Cally-hate. It's part of why I stopped lurking on TWoP except for a few specific threads. Ah well. How quickly the newbie learns that fandom is just crazy. Fun, but insane.
as a larger thematic concept, I love this--that they keep trying, and yet can't seem to overcome the (totally rational) human distrust--so that's why it bothers me that, actually, it HAS worked and one Cylon has won acceptance
The more I think about this the more it bothers me too; it makes me wonder if something is fundamentally wrong with Helo and Bill Adama--without their influence Sharon would still be locked up and shunned. I was going over that whole sequence in my mind--Helo stops Kara from shooting Sharon because of the pregnancy and then he starts to trust her... which leads to Kara being tolerant of her, and so on. another case of magic ovaries on BSG, heh