lizardbeth-j.livejournal.com ([identity profile] lizardbeth-j.livejournal.com) wrote in [personal profile] rose_griffes 2009-01-09 05:41 am (UTC)

um, yes, that was me. To expand a bit, the other models think the Twos are a bit bonkers because their priorities are askew to the rest of the collective - they're capable of collective action, but they have this wacky interest in thinking the Hybrids can prophesy. So, because nobody else takes them seriously, the Twos kind of have no one else but each other to understand. They're sort of their own collective within a collective. I suppose all of them are, in a sense, but the Twos seem to have their own agenda.

And in pursuit of that agenda they need to be able to share information. Each hybrid probably produces different gibberish, so I like the idea that they pool their knowledge to try to understand what she's saying. With the Eights it seems to be a matter of choice to access other individual's memories (and that may only be possible at download or special set-ups like Boomer's sleeper role, but I don't know). But with the Twos, as each one learns something connected to their interests, he puts it in the Twos' datastream, so they all know about it. So while I think yes, they all know and agree with the deal about Kara (though I'm less certain that New Caprica Leoben didn't go off the reservation in his zealousness), I'm less certain they share everything, and more that they update everyone with things that are important.

So - gods, am I even answering your question anymore? I've been interrupted like four times and I'm just blathering on - anyway, I agree that exposure to humans is loosening them all up (rather to Team Ugly Cylon's chagrin), including the Twos, and mortality is going to speed up that process because it takes away one of the main things that makes them very different culturally.

I think another thing to keep in mind about ALL the cylons is that until exposure to humans they were all living lives that were all but identical. It's not just humans - it was the changes of the infiltrators leaving the ships and going to the planets, it was some of them getting killed for the first time, it was having HEROES who became important by virtue of what one model did. So it's all very poetic that by choosing to destroy humanity, they sowed the seeds of their own death as well.

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