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rose_griffes) wrote2009-10-29 09:43 pm
rose_griffes) wrote2009-10-29 09:43 pm
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Battlestar Galactica's "The Plan"
If I ever have to teach a unit on the human reproductive system again, I can use footage from the DVD. Look, kids, those are breasts. And more breasts. And more breasts. And this is how you have sex.
(Maybe this is why they're not showing "The Plan" on the Sci-Fi channel until some later date--it's going to take months to do a breast-free edit.)
I now have this urge to type the word penis over and over again just to get some sense of fairness. I've read enough reaction posts to know that there apparently was a penis in the bathroom scene, but I missed it. Maybe because my TV screen is so tiny, or maybe because the penis was camouflaged by ALL THE BREASTS.
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Well. This is certainly an atypical post for my livejournal, isn't it? (If you can say the word penis in front of an audience of thirteen-year-olds with a straight face, typing it multiple times for an anonymous online audience is not difficult at all.)
It wasn't all-breasts all the time. I liked a lot of the character development--Leoben painting the mandala, WHEEEEEEE! Sam being Sam and therefore awesome. Poor Simon and his family. Doral's teal jacket, ahahahahahah! (That moment was better than I could have hoped for, in fact.) More Jean Barolay content, though there's never enough of that for me.
The Boomer part--I think I liked it, though I reserve the right to change my mind in a day or two. *laughs* I know the origin of the elephant figurine, I'm just a bit weirded out at it being the key to her cylon-memories. Heh. But it was interesting, having Cavil interact with her throughout the season one events.
The differentiation between the two Cavils was a great touch, especially since the Ones (or one One, anyway) eventually caused a schism in another model, the Eights.
The Sixes were all very amusing. Was I supposed to take any of their characters seriously?
New greasemonkey (Simon's wife) managed to get my sympathy.
I'm not sure this should be called a movie; more like a collection of random, mostly-interesting moments*. I guess since it's a
*They could have done so much more with this. I'm not disappointed, because I wasn't expecting much, but the potential was there for a much better program.
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You're not alone! I felt like going back and watching, just to say I actually saw the mythical penis in question. Also this post, HEEE!
And yeah, I had much fun watching, but you could see hints of an actual GOOD movie show up every now and then, which was mildly frustrating.
I think the point of the Sixes was just SIIIX!!! Or to me anyway. What? And the extra sex of course.
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Sadly, one penis does not make up for a plethorie of breasts.
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*laughs*
Though seriously: teeny, tiny TV screen so I would probably miss it anyway, and eh... I really don't care. I will rewatch my favorite cylon-y bits before sending the disk back to Netflix.
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'Cause seriously, it's barely even in the shot, the camera jumps back all "Whoops! Nothing to see here! (Aren't we edgy!)"
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*rolls eyes* Yeah, show, really edgy.
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WIN!
That moment was better than I could have hoped for, in fact.
That moment will live on forever in BSG history, I say.
More Jean Barolay content, though there's never enough of that for me.
Definitely need more Jean, yes.
Was I supposed to take any of their characters seriously?
Does it matter? It's Six! And more Six! Awesome and gorgeous and funny.
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I'm going to have to rewatch that part, I love it so. :)
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Was it the nudity that bothered you or just the lack of equal opportunity nudity? Unfortunately, this is BSG and the only time women get more attention than men is when they're naked. Oops, did I say that? Gosh, that's snarkier than my usual. :-) I guess, I'm still a leetle bitter about the many female deaths at the end of the series. The boobage here was a very strange choice, though.
And there was a penis! Yup, under the sinks in that bathroom scene. Weird, Shelly and Cavil just passing through as people stand naked. I mean I watched the show for four years and saw such scenes without nudity. I mean, we got it.
I'm just a bit weirded out at it being the key to her cylon-memories.
Yeah, it's been a few days for me and I've decided I don't like that Cavil was triggering her. I don't know. It changes things for me to believe otherwise. I thought her switching came from her, from being a Cylon. That no one knew when she might flip into Cylonness. It's odd to rethink all of that at this late date.
Yes, better than Mansquito, good gods. But what is that really saying? It was a funny movie, though. And I loved Hooker!Six. And Cavil glee. :-)
What did you make of the little boy?
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Mostly the first, but some of the latter. I don't really think we need to objectify men more to bring them to some sort of 'equality' with how much women's bodies are objectified, but the fact that they kinda tried without actually trying to be "equal" is even more annoying.
There's no parity anyway. Women are sexualized more than men in our society. For me the nudity in this episode was both unnecessary and unwanted and now I'm grumpy about it.
I mean I watched the show for four years and saw such scenes without nudity. I mean, we got it.
Exactly. We got it without the BOOBS BOOBS BOOBS show that "The Plan" had.
What did you make of the little boy?
Mixed feelings. As a symbol of Cavil himself, the kid works. As an independent plot that doesn't have to be symbolic, eh... it doesn't work so well.
Think I'll go watch more of The Sarah Connor Chronicles now, a show that has had its attractive female leads naked more than once for actual plot purposes, and that filmed those scenes in a non-sexual way. (YES, such a thing is possible! Yay show!)
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It is on one hand, but on the other that's something that BSG always struggled with. They tried for gender equality but then fell into the pitfalls of our society. For instance, there is always more boobage than full frontal male nudity in movies. In a movie, boobies get an R-rating. Usual fare. Full frontal? That's almost NC-17 territory. So I guess the fact that the penis was there is something. But the bigger question is, why nudity at all? I almost want to listen to the DVD commentary. Oops! I already returned the video.
Women are sexualized more than men in our society. For me the nudity in this episode was both unnecessary and unwanted and now I'm grumpy about it.
Yup, women are. I am sorry about you're grumpy. I wonder what men thought of the Plan. From the Razor movie line a few years ago a lot of men watch BSG. I wonder if they were offended or just transfixed by free boobies around.
I thought the boy was Cavil. Why else name him John? And it explained how he thought his parents didn't want him. But the deleted scene with the boy going to that nightmare of missing children underground confuses me, so who knows.
Nudity for plot? For reals? Naw. Maybe robot-women. The nudity here was distracting, but didn't bother me as much. I had to let go a lot to watch this. I didn't ask much of it. In the end even a Cavil fell for the fully-clothed and fallible humans. I liked Cavil in this and appreciated some snarky lines. And Simon. And even though Hooker!Six was a hooker she managed to keep her underwear on and be insightful all at the same time. I liked her. :-)
Enjoy TSCC!
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Yeah, why the nudity is an excellent question. Though from what I've read, we're both better off not listening to the DVD commentary. *g*
From the Razor movie line a few years ago a lot of men watch BSG. I wonder if they were offended or just transfixed by free boobies around.
Eh, probably some of each, just depends on the guy.
Nudity for plot? For reals?
Yeah, 'cause when you time-travel in the Terminator universe, you end up naked, remember? I think we've seen more of Derek Reese (uncle of John Connor) than we have of Sarah Connor, even though Sarah's the one who we saw time-traveling.
I had to let go a lot to watch this.
*sigh* That's just a sad-making statement, 'cause it's true.
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Ahahahaha! I'm glad I'm the only one who didn't see it.
Was I supposed to take any of their characters seriously?
I was super-sad for Shelley when Cavil was like "Airlock is this way, bb" and she made a sad Tricia face. But other than that, no.
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Heh. I figured it had to be during the bathroom scene but I just didn't see anything.
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