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rose_griffes) wrote2008-05-23 06:52 pm
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No new Battlestar Galactica this week. Woe. Also, I'm sick and staying in tonight. Woe woe woe.
So I bring you the picspamof doom of the previous episode of BSG. With bonus rambling comentary by me.
The Cylon 'Rebels'--Twos, Sixes and Eights
Tiny little Demetrius, plus the damaged baseship. Cool-looking. So it repairs itself? How?
Interesting that Kara goes directly for Natalie-Six as spokesperson. Yes, this Six has been very pro-active in their tentative alliance so far (killing the Six who killed Barolay, for example), but just maybe Kara doesn't want Leoben's crazy stream-talking self to be the voice of the cylon. Heh.
By the way, I read some interesting meta about how different Leoben's demeanor is in different situations--with the humans he's often a bit manic and facially very expressive, with the other cylon he's calm and deliberate.
Anyway, the looks Natalie and Leoben exchange make me wonder what else was going on that we don't know about. Eight was mostly ignored.
Natalie comes back after her first foray on the Galactica, certain that the humans will betray them. Leoben's hesitant, but ultimately she convinces the Twos to go along with her plan to take human hostages. The Eights are again ignored.
I've been speculating for a while now--how many copies are left of the Twos, Sixes and Eights? We know there are many eights--we saw them talking to Sharon Agathon. Sixes--several. Twos--at least two. Heh. Here's some pictorial proof. This first shot swoops over the human fleet's ships coming into the basestar. A Two, Six and Eight are gathered near. (gray pants, red shirt--which is strikingly subdued clothing)
Then the shot continues down and we see another Two in the same outfit, also talking to other models.
I was telling![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
daybreak777 that it looks like the cylons are staying mostly with their own model. Possibly as a result of the civil war starting, the different cylon models congregated on basestars mostly composed of their own line, with just a few from the other lines as representatives of a sort. If a baseship of Eights is the only survivor of the attack by the Ones, Fours and Fives, we may have very few of the Sixes and Twos. (I love wild speculation, obviously.) And yet, the Eights seem to have very little power in this enclave of cylon survivors.
The basestar does get a large contingent of human pilots and ships. They're frightened by the Centurions, whose walk ignores the presence of the humans. Creepy.
After another visit to Galactica, Natalie gets concerned about Judgment--specifically, what would those Final Five cylons think of their actions if they do act in violence? The resulting tête-à-tête has more significant glances.
It also has me worried about Leoben's fate--likeprolix_allie, I'm guessing one course of action might be for the Twos to take away the Centurions' higher-thinking abilities. That would put him very much at risk if it can't all be done at once. Oh noes! (I predicted Leoben's death a few weeks ago. I'll find the comment if I'm proven right. Just to say 'I told you so.' Heh.)
Laura and expediency
President Roslin ignores Lee's first plea for her to address concerns about her shared visions. She did confirm that she was having them, which I thought was interesting. Lee's second try was more successful. After all, who could resist this face?
Roslin sees the possibility of having a 'mortal' enemy, thanks to Natalie. It's a big realization.
Also, that painting on the wall in Adama's office has this little detail. HEHEHEE!
With Tory her directness was not just, well, direct, but also crude.
Dear Mr. Angeli,
You know frak about writing dialogue for Laura Roslin.
Sincerely,
Rose
Tory did show her first signs of doubt in a long time. This made me feel slightly reassured.
It also made me start typing a really bad joke about how she was going to get information out of Baltar, but I decided not to take the Angeli route.
Hand of destiny
The 'dying leader' written of by Pythia continues to haunt Roslin. Kara brings Laura information that the hybrid might have more about the Opera House visions.
I loved this scene--Kara's hesitancy (which isn't exactly suprising, considering recent events), Laura taking action when she sees an opportunity to know more. Kara's so excited to be given a chore by Roslin. *sniff* I'm just happy that no one is waving a gun.
By the way, since I'm on the topic of hybrid-speeches, I do think it's possible that the hybrid was referring to the cylons when she called Kara the 'harbinger of death.' I'm just not positive. Hm. I also don't know if Kara thinks they refer to the cylons or not, but she did make that connection to 'dying leader' again. (Laura already called herself a dying leader, to Kara, when asking her to retrieve the arrow of Apollo.)
Visions and dreams--apparently Hera has her share of them. She's been drawing Sixes. More specifically, they look like Baltar's head!Six.
The FinalFive Four
In a surprising turn of events, Sam is freaked out. *g*
Tyrol is numb, Tigh is in denial and Tory is not pumping Baltar for information. (Sorry. I said I wouldn't go there, but I lied.)
more destiny--shared dreams
The visions that Caprica Six, Sharon Agathon and Laura Roslin share are gorgeous.
Obviously, for Sharon as the mother, they're also very ominous. Hera seems to be having a good time, though. Yikes. (That to me is far creepier than anything else they had the adorable kid do in this episode--her giggling and running away in the Opera House. At least her running away on Galactica wasn't accompanied by ominous laughter.)
The dream leads to a split story. First, Roslin has Baltar join her to visit the hybrid.
Please note that Helo has given in to an uncontrollable urge to nibble at Kara's hair.
Athena finds Hera with Natalie.
Just when she'd finally gotten off my "I will never trust you" list, she gets put back on it. (I really want to know if Hera sees the same thing--if that's what compelled her to leave their quarters.)
I don't think it was accidental that this camera shot reminded me so forcefully of Gina.
The first cylon to commit violence against her own kind does it again. (D'Anna once said that Caprica Six committed the first act of cylon-on-cylon violence--referring to the head-smash in 'Downloaded.' But Sharon shot another Eight when she and Helo were on the run on the planet Caprica, well before then.)
Felix--end of line
Like DB, I just wasn't prepared for amputation. I was in complete denial until Doctor Cottle had that cutting device in his hands.
I liked the song device being used throughout the sickbay scenes--they worked well the first time I watched, and the second time--wow, the impact was undeniable. The song itself was haunting, minor-key. Alessandro Juliani was amazing as he sang it. The ending was particularly ominous. The hybrid is reconnected and jumps away with Roslin, Baltar and Helo Agathon aboard...
JUMP!
... and we finish with Felix singing, directly facing us. To have her please just one day wake.
It sends chills down my spine when I watch it.
I didn't even get to the Quorom stuff, or the fact that Lee still wears his wedding ring, or Significant Kara/Lee Glances, or Tigh's magical abilities, or... but I'm really tired of sitting here, so I think this is the end.
So I bring you the picspam
The Cylon 'Rebels'--Twos, Sixes and Eights
Tiny little Demetrius, plus the damaged baseship. Cool-looking. So it repairs itself? How?
Interesting that Kara goes directly for Natalie-Six as spokesperson. Yes, this Six has been very pro-active in their tentative alliance so far (killing the Six who killed Barolay, for example), but just maybe Kara doesn't want Leoben's crazy stream-talking self to be the voice of the cylon. Heh.
By the way, I read some interesting meta about how different Leoben's demeanor is in different situations--with the humans he's often a bit manic and facially very expressive, with the other cylon he's calm and deliberate.
Anyway, the looks Natalie and Leoben exchange make me wonder what else was going on that we don't know about. Eight was mostly ignored.
Natalie comes back after her first foray on the Galactica, certain that the humans will betray them. Leoben's hesitant, but ultimately she convinces the Twos to go along with her plan to take human hostages. The Eights are again ignored.
I've been speculating for a while now--how many copies are left of the Twos, Sixes and Eights? We know there are many eights--we saw them talking to Sharon Agathon. Sixes--several. Twos--at least two. Heh. Here's some pictorial proof. This first shot swoops over the human fleet's ships coming into the basestar. A Two, Six and Eight are gathered near. (gray pants, red shirt--which is strikingly subdued clothing)
Then the shot continues down and we see another Two in the same outfit, also talking to other models.
I was telling
daybreak777 that it looks like the cylons are staying mostly with their own model. Possibly as a result of the civil war starting, the different cylon models congregated on basestars mostly composed of their own line, with just a few from the other lines as representatives of a sort. If a baseship of Eights is the only survivor of the attack by the Ones, Fours and Fives, we may have very few of the Sixes and Twos. (I love wild speculation, obviously.) And yet, the Eights seem to have very little power in this enclave of cylon survivors.The basestar does get a large contingent of human pilots and ships. They're frightened by the Centurions, whose walk ignores the presence of the humans. Creepy.
After another visit to Galactica, Natalie gets concerned about Judgment--specifically, what would those Final Five cylons think of their actions if they do act in violence? The resulting tête-à-tête has more significant glances.
It also has me worried about Leoben's fate--like
prolix_allie, I'm guessing one course of action might be for the Twos to take away the Centurions' higher-thinking abilities. That would put him very much at risk if it can't all be done at once. Oh noes! (I predicted Leoben's death a few weeks ago. I'll find the comment if I'm proven right. Just to say 'I told you so.' Heh.)
Laura and expediency
President Roslin ignores Lee's first plea for her to address concerns about her shared visions. She did confirm that she was having them, which I thought was interesting. Lee's second try was more successful. After all, who could resist this face?
Roslin sees the possibility of having a 'mortal' enemy, thanks to Natalie. It's a big realization.
Also, that painting on the wall in Adama's office has this little detail. HEHEHEE!
With Tory her directness was not just, well, direct, but also crude.
Dear Mr. Angeli,
You know frak about writing dialogue for Laura Roslin.
Sincerely,
Rose
Tory did show her first signs of doubt in a long time. This made me feel slightly reassured.
It also made me start typing a really bad joke about how she was going to get information out of Baltar, but I decided not to take the Angeli route.
Hand of destiny
The 'dying leader' written of by Pythia continues to haunt Roslin. Kara brings Laura information that the hybrid might have more about the Opera House visions.
I loved this scene--Kara's hesitancy (which isn't exactly suprising, considering recent events), Laura taking action when she sees an opportunity to know more. Kara's so excited to be given a chore by Roslin. *sniff* I'm just happy that no one is waving a gun.
By the way, since I'm on the topic of hybrid-speeches, I do think it's possible that the hybrid was referring to the cylons when she called Kara the 'harbinger of death.' I'm just not positive. Hm. I also don't know if Kara thinks they refer to the cylons or not, but she did make that connection to 'dying leader' again. (Laura already called herself a dying leader, to Kara, when asking her to retrieve the arrow of Apollo.)
Visions and dreams--apparently Hera has her share of them. She's been drawing Sixes. More specifically, they look like Baltar's head!Six.
The Final
In a surprising turn of events, Sam is freaked out. *g*
Tyrol is numb, Tigh is in denial and Tory is not pumping Baltar for information. (Sorry. I said I wouldn't go there, but I lied.)
more destiny--shared dreams
The visions that Caprica Six, Sharon Agathon and Laura Roslin share are gorgeous.
Obviously, for Sharon as the mother, they're also very ominous. Hera seems to be having a good time, though. Yikes. (That to me is far creepier than anything else they had the adorable kid do in this episode--her giggling and running away in the Opera House. At least her running away on Galactica wasn't accompanied by ominous laughter.)
The dream leads to a split story. First, Roslin has Baltar join her to visit the hybrid.
Please note that Helo has given in to an uncontrollable urge to nibble at Kara's hair.
Athena finds Hera with Natalie.
Just when she'd finally gotten off my "I will never trust you" list, she gets put back on it. (I really want to know if Hera sees the same thing--if that's what compelled her to leave their quarters.)
I don't think it was accidental that this camera shot reminded me so forcefully of Gina.
The first cylon to commit violence against her own kind does it again. (D'Anna once said that Caprica Six committed the first act of cylon-on-cylon violence--referring to the head-smash in 'Downloaded.' But Sharon shot another Eight when she and Helo were on the run on the planet Caprica, well before then.)
Felix--end of line
Like DB, I just wasn't prepared for amputation. I was in complete denial until Doctor Cottle had that cutting device in his hands.
I liked the song device being used throughout the sickbay scenes--they worked well the first time I watched, and the second time--wow, the impact was undeniable. The song itself was haunting, minor-key. Alessandro Juliani was amazing as he sang it. The ending was particularly ominous. The hybrid is reconnected and jumps away with Roslin, Baltar and Helo Agathon aboard...
JUMP!
... and we finish with Felix singing, directly facing us. To have her please just one day wake.
It sends chills down my spine when I watch it.
I didn't even get to the Quorom stuff, or the fact that Lee still wears his wedding ring, or Significant Kara/Lee Glances, or Tigh's magical abilities, or... but I'm really tired of sitting here, so I think this is the end.
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That was totally the impression I got. Hee! ;) And I read that meta when I was doing Gnews. He does have a very different demeanor when he's around humans vs. other Cylons - though I think we saw some of that calm with Kara and Sam in "Faith." (I think Leoben's taken a fancy to Sam just because it's someone who actually listens to him. *g*)
And yet, the Eights seem to have very little power in this enclave of cylon survivors.
I forget where I heard this, but I think the Cylons defer to each other by number, with the Cavil's in first place - so the Eights are last. But hey, they have the numbers! Er. So to speak.
I hope you're wrong about Leoben! ... The hell
You know frak about writing dialogue for Laura Roslin.
BWAH! But really. That part bothered me because if you sub in the actual word, it doesn't work, does it? At least if she'd said "my friendship and trust mean frak-all" it would work. And don't get me started about "on your knees." I like to think Roslin's the type of woman who realizes you can be even more devastating using big-girl words, besides.
Kara's so excited to be given a chore by Roslin.
Aw, she was. It was really cute. ;)
At least her running away on Galactica wasn't accompanied by ominous laughter.)
I know! It's really freaky! And that little girl is so chubby and adorable too. It's disconcerting!
Just when she'd finally gotten off my "I will never trust you" list, she gets put back on it. (I really want to know if Hera sees the same thing--if that's what compelled her to leave their quarters.)
I vote Hera does. We already know she can see head!Six.
Athena - like I said in my journal, at least her sheer idiocy proves she's the human kind of untrustworthy rather than the Cylon kind?
McCreary and AJ kind of spilled the beans about the amputation, but yeah, even so.
Wow, you noticed the Significant Kara/Lee glance! You're good - I had to rewind a couple times after I heard other people talking about it, but he definitely looks at her. Aw! I noticed the significant Kara/Sam glance and her standing protectively in front of him on first viewing though. What? *adjusts tin-hat*
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That was totally the impression I got. Hee! ;)
Oh good, it's not just me, then! No one else said anything that I could find, so I wondered if I was just *way* too focused on Leoben and missing the point.
I forget where I heard this, but I think the Cylons defer to each other by number, with the Cavil's in first place - so the Eights are last. But hey, they have the numbers! Er. So to speak.
It's an interesting idea--if so, why were they designed that way? Who designed them that way?
That part bothered me because if you sub in the actual word, it doesn't work, does it? At least if she'd said "my friendship and trust mean frak-all" it would work. And don't get me started about "on your knees." I like to think Roslin's the type of woman who realizes you can be even more devastating using big-girl words, besides.
Ugh, I know. It's just not how Roslin talked before, even when she was dying the first time. And yes, the word frak in that context... hey, they could've used felgercarb. Heh. (Frak and felgercarb were both in the original series.)
McCreary and AJ kind of spilled the beans about the amputation, but yeah, even so.
Really? Was the blog up before the episode aired, or something else? I'm hopelessly out of the loop. Considering I don't even get to watch until the next day, that's probably just fine.
I noticed the significant Kara/Sam glance and her standing protectively in front of him on first viewing though. What? *adjusts tin-hat*
Oh, that was much more noticeable to me than the Kara/Lee glancing. The protective stance--awwwww.
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Felgercarb? At least that would have been funny!
Really? Was the blog up before the episode aired, or something else?
He said in the blog for "Faith" that Gaeta's theme would be heavily featured in the next episode. Which made me think that he would have been more circumspect if Gaeta were going to die, so... Well, that and I heard AJ said in an interview that his character would have something in common with Tiny Tim this season. Heh - subtle, AJ. ;)
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There is a lot in your post I'd like to respond to but that image stays with me today.
http://media.battlestarwiki.org/images/a/aa/Monclair2.jpg
Wow!
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But I think I found the one you wanted to show up, it includes an article about the 'famous Colonial painter' Monclair. So I saw the painting. Cool! (Weird that I can get to it and it has the address you typed, but linking there doesn't work.) Too bad it has that glare in the photo, makes it hard to see the details.
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Anyway, that other version of the picture is definitely more clear.